Arthur Morris;304799]Hi Jay,

Hi Artie, perhaps because for us it is bed time I am not clear on what you are saying :o

re:

I am not sure where you going with this?

If you are still confused after my comments below please let me know what confuses you.

And, BTW, what is the free pass business?

In my letter to the community, I wrote: "We ask that you not find fault with an image that has been enlarged, darkened, or otherwise manipulated (by you).

On a related note, please base your comments on the image as viewed at the posted resolution. We ask that you not find fault with an image that has been enlarged, darkened, or otherwise manipulated.
This is the comment you are referring to. You have now added "by you".

I am confused on two level/different points.

As to the original statement, almost all images on BPN have been enlarged, darkened, or otherwise manipulated. Simply cropping an image enlarges the persentation; PP is encouraged. It appears that there is a conflict between the two sentences quoted.

When you add "by you" I am a bit more confused - why would I find fault with something I enlarged etc?

I would assume that PP someone else's image is done to suggest a different presentation. Why would I find fault with a RP?

I am sorry if I am being dense.
As I stated above, I did not bust JC for enlarging the image to find a problem because he did see the blue line in the original post. Thus I gave him a free pass.

What do you mean by a "free pass"? That what he did was OK; that he doesn't get demerit points? Again, I think I saw that term used once before and didn't ask about it. Now I am asking in this context.

The faint blue line is more prominent in #26 than #28, and it is more prominent in #29 than #28 because I had to enlarge it to bring it out and I added the white canvass to help the eye see blue against the white (even though the green is between the blue line and the white).

I have no problem at all with that.

Of course, the blue line is more prominent in #26 than in the OP too.

I guess that that is where I was going. It shows that there were indeed problems with my slection and Refine Eddge settings. I will try and see if I can make a better selection and cleaner edges.

Mate, I am not sure I understand this statement:

"critiques should be based on the originally posted JPEG not on enlargements or super-enlargements of the downloaded JPEGs."

In my letter to the community (as above) I neglected to include the words "by you," at the end of that sentence. You are the 2nd person to have been confused. I shall make that point clear in a follow-up.

In the above quote, this makes things clearer:

"critiques should be based on the originally posted JPEG not on enlargements or super-enlargements of the downloaded JPEGs created by the person critiquing the image."

Mate, this is not clear and needs to be refined. If you didn't see something in the image as posted, why would you enlarge or super-enlarge to go on a fishing expedition?

In other words, restrict your comments to stuff that you can see in the original post. At times, folks will enlarge or intentionally darken a posted JPEG in order to find something negative to say.

Frankly, none of us have time for what you just described. If a person frequently/consistently can be seen to doing what you have just described, well - it is your Forum/you are the owner/ - identify the problem and deal with it. Invite such a person who goes hunting for something negative to say to take his comments elsewhere.

Intentionally trying to find something negative to say is like crying "fire" in a movie theater. Free speech has it limitations!!
There is a faint blue line in the OP, and it is highlighted by the enlargement in #26. Aren't they one and the same, and #26 is simply an enlargement of the OP to illuminate Juan's identification of the blue line?

Agree. [/quote]

Good night, Mate. Catch you my manana. ;) :D