Scoop! Canon 1D Mark IV is Offical

[Jay Gould]

Hey Rich, that's a good one: KUAC. More on the same vein: folks think that just because they go out and spend $10-25 K on some glass and a body or two that they will automatically make good image. Man, you gotta love that.

Canon certainly loves it!

On the other hand, since I love to stir the porridge (an Aussie expression!), speaking for those that are quite serious about learning to become good photographers and graduating from the clueless category, the purchase of expensive equipment assuming it is affordable within one's circumstances isn't done by serious new amateurs so that they can flash the "latest and greatest". It is done because of the desire to to use all of the best tools possible to advance the learning curve as quickly as possible.

Once upon a time in a far off land a famous photographer said that the 50D was the best birding body he had ever used; that same photographer skipped the 7D and opined regarding the 1D4 that:

To me the AF seemed far superior against all BKGRs. Final (and honest) answer

Given the discussions thus far regarding the 50D, 1DIII, and now the 7D, I read the Guru's opinion to be that the 1D4 is probably the best tool for the job.

Having the 1D4 will not make you a better photographer; hopefully, having the 1D4 AF system and working hard to become a better photographer will asssit in obtaining a better tack sharp keeper rate.

At the end of the day we all agree that it is up to the individual; cameras do not take photos - people do.

[Arthur Morris]

Jay,

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On the other hand, since I love to stir the porridge (an Aussie expression!), speaking for those that are quite serious about learning to become good photographers and graduating from the clueless category, the purchase of expensive equipment assuming it is affordable within one's circumstances isn't done by serious new amateurs so that they can flash the "latest and greatest". It is done because of the desire to to use all of the best tools possible to advance the learning curve as quickly as possible.

Obviously you are either not reading or understanding what I wrote. Yes, there are some well off folks who purchase the best tools and work hard at improving. My beef is with the many who buy the gear and make zero effort to do the work.

Once upon a time in a far off land a famous photographer said that the 50D was the best birding body he had ever used;

That is not an exact quote. Please do prove me wrong by proving a link to those words. I do not appreciate being paraphrased when the meaning of my statements is changed.

that same photographer skipped the 7D and opined regarding the 1D4 that:

To me the AF seemed far superior against all BKGRs. Final (and honest) answer

I was comparing the MIV to the MIII so your comment about my skipping the 7D makes no sense at l.


Given the discussions thus far regarding the 50D, 1DIII, and now the 7D, I read the Guru's opinion to be that the 1D4 is probably the best tool for the job.

As I stated clearly that is my honest opinion after using the camera for a limited amount of time. I do not get free Canon gear and I immediately plunked down about 9K out of my own pocket to order two MIVs.

Having the 1D4 will not make you a better photographer; hopefully, having the 1D4 AF system and working hard to become a better photographer will asssit in obtaining a better tack sharp keeper rate.

Sure hope so.

At the end of the day we all agree that it is up to the individual; cameras do not take photos - people do.

Thanks for that revelation.

As I have taken the time to respond to your mostly off-base comments I would appreciate a link to the quote you ascribed to me above so that I can apologize to you if need be (or accept your apology for misquoting me.)

Respectfully.

[Dug Threewitt]

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Once upon a time in a far off land a famous photographer said that the 50D was the best birding body he had ever used;

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Artie,
I think Jay was referring to your statement "Though I have stated clearly that the 50D tracks birds in flight more accurately than any Canon camera that I have ever used, we get lots of e-mails from disbelievers." from this blog post http://www.birdsasart-blog.com/2009/...-through-wood/

It looks like a mis-rememberence of what was said. Thanks for all of your input.
Dug

[Arthur Morris]

Artie,
I think Jay was referring to your statement "Though I have stated clearly that the 50D tracks birds in flight more accurately than any Canon camera that I have ever used, we get lots of e-mails from disbelievers." from this blog post http://www.birdsasart-blog.com/2009/...-through-wood/ It looks like a mis-rememberence of what was said. Thanks for all of your input. Dug

YAW. What I said and what he said I said have totally different meanings.

I stand by what I said at the time about the 50D. I had never used a 7D when I said that and the MIV was only a distant rumor.

Folks need to be impeccably careful about what they say on-line as the whole world is watching.