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This thread was copied in part from Avian Free and Wild. If you are either new to digital or are sharpening your master files, do take a minute to read down to the repost.

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THanks, Everyone for your comments.
Artie, I do sharpen my optimized files. I remember that you don't, but I only use them to post on my website, so I sharpen them for that purpose.
You ask how I am viewing my image..., I don't know what you mean. I view them in photoshop. (With my glasses on. LOL)
Went back to this one, and sharpened some more, it looks better now to my eye. May I repost?
 
You could post the altered version by replying to your own thread. It's always great to see the difference a repost can make. Great perch, light and BG.
 
Hi Grace, I am still confused. It sounds as if you are sharpening your full sized optimized files and then downsizing them. Is that correct?

Reposts are always welcome on BPN.
 
Yes, Artie. I prepare my images with whatever PS adjustment are necessary, levels, s/h, whatever, then sharpen them, then convert to srgb, save them. THen I open the saved file, apply a bit more sharpening if warranted, then put in my signature (as I don't like it sharpened), save again. There probably are multiple flaws with this, thanks for your insights.
 
I would like to see the sharpened version of this image as it is soft as shown. Love the great rear view of the plumage and the raised crest. The dark bg sets off the bird well and the cedar perch is pretty. A few degrees more head turn would have been desirable.
 
Yes, Artie. I prepare my images with whatever PS adjustment are necessary, levels, s/h, whatever, then sharpen them, then convert to srgb, save them. THen I open the saved file, apply a bit more sharpening if warranted, then put in my signature (as I don't like it sharpened), save again. There probably are multiple flaws with this, thanks for your insights.

Hi Grace,

I am still a bit confused... When you say I prepare my images.... then sharpen them and covnert to sRGB, are you working on small JPEGs or on the full resolution TIFFs? (Sorry to be a pain but the answer to that is vital to you getting the help that you need...) Thanks!
 
OK. Here we go. It is absolutley wrong to sharpen your full sized TIFF master files. No digital image should be sharpened until it is sized for final usage. I save my optimized master file. If we need to make a print, we open the master file, duplicate the image, close the master file, size the image to the print size and then sharpen the image. The larger the print (and the larger the file size), the more sharpening the image will need. Need a large j-peg for slide programs, downsize the copy, sharpen to taste, and then save. Same for a small j-peg. An 11 X 16 priint might need sharpening in the range of 450%, .8 (or more). A large jpeg, 325, .3. A small jpeg, 225, .25.

And there is a huge difference in sharpening for print versus sharpening for the web. When sharpening for print, your sized file should look over-sharpened (to allow for the ink soaking into paper). When sharpening for web, you want to sharpen without any apparenet over-sharpening... What you see is what you want...

If you sharpen your master file and then downsize it, the image should theoretically be well over-sharpened. You are the second person here in two days who states that they sharpen their master files and then downsize for the web (yet whose jpegs looked soft...) I have no explanation for that, but best to do it right and learn to sharpen for a given size...

BTW, all of the above info is contained in both Digital Bascis and in the Digital Workflow chapter of ABP II.

(Aside from capture sharpening, which is a whole other can of worms), the only time that a master file should be sharpened at all is when the eyes or the face are selectively sharpened a small bit.

OK, now I can get to the image. I love the bird and the cedar and the BKGR. And love your framing of the cedar bough. The head turn is good but a few degrees short of perfect. And yes, the whole bird could stand a good round of selective sharpening. You paint a QM of the bird, and sharpen only that layer. This avoids sharpening any noise that is present in the background... The beauty of using a QM is the seamless blending--you do not have to worry much about painting exactly between the lines...

I sharpened only the bird at 228, .3, 1 and then lightened the whole thing a bit as jpegs tend to get darker when they are re-saved. Hope that you like.
 

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OK. Here we go. It is absolutley wrong to sharpen your full sized TIFF master files. No digital image should be sharpened until it is sized for final usage. I save my optimized master file. If we need to make a print, we open the master file, duplicate the image, close the master file, size the image to the print size and then sharpen the image. The larger the print (and the larger the file size), the more sharpening the image will need. Need a large j-peg for slide programs, downsize the copy, sharpen to taste, and then save. Same for a small j-peg. An 11 X 16 priint might need sharpening in the range of 450%, .8 (or more). A large jpeg, 325, .3. A small jpeg, 225, .25.

Art,
I do my sharpening on my highest resolution image. I describe why below.

Before I start, a little background. I have been doing digital imaging since 1976 (started with experimental scientific applications with 480x512 pixel digital cameras at MIT; the system weight about 200 pounds not including two 3-foot racks of electronics). I routinely write my own image processing algorithms for scientific applications, usually using aircraft and spacecraft based sensors for studying ecosystems and mapping other planets. I understand the theory and principles of image processing.

If anything can be said is absolutely wrong, it is calling unsharp mask sharpening! ;-) Unsharp mask is a method derived from film days as an analog darkroom process for edge enhancement. As such, unsharp mask actually does not sharpen; it increases accutance. See, for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharpness_(visual)
The unsharp mask tool in Photoshop and many other image processing systems actually does not change resolution, and in fact depending on the application can actually decrease resolution. But the human visual system is usually fooled into thinking the image looks sharper due to increased edge contrast.

Having said that for background introduction, I disagree with your statement that it is absolutely wrong to sharpen the full size master file. I don't disagree that if you want to do it that way, that it is fine, but I'll use the posted image to illustrate why I do work on the full size image. Often there are multiple ways to achieve an image processing result, and no one method is usually right or wrong.

Take a look at a typical full size image. Not all parts of the image are in equal focus. This is common to many photographs, due, for example limits in the depth of field, subject movement, or camera movement with too long of an exposure time. Thus, if one wants to compensate for some of these problems, one must selectively sharpen different areas of the image, just as one may do selective dodge and burn on an image. It is this basic reason why I feel it is best and most time efficient to complete the processing on the full resolution image, so you don't have to do it again and again for each size image one wants to produce.

I produce a file that I believe will be my largest print size. This may start with up-sampling at the raw conversion, and/or include cubic spline interpolation to more pixels. Such an "up-rez'd" image is soft at the pixel or even couple of pixel level. So after increasing pixels, and after all other processing is completed (I archive this version of the image), the last processing step I do is to really sharpen. By this I mean to use algorithms that actually sharpens, not simply unsharp mask. A master with Photoshop and unsharp mask can do a pretty good job at making an image look great, but in my experience, the true sharpen algorithms produce better fine detail which when combined with a little unsharp mask can produce stunning results with more visible fine detail.

The algorithm I use most is "Richardson-Lucy Image deconvolution." This algorithm, for example, was used to fix images from the Hubble telescope before the optical fix. Given a model of the blur, the algorithm tries, through iterative estimations, to put energy back into a better focus. Blur can be from many causes, from motion to lens aberrations, to defocus. It can repair, for example some motion blur. If you have an otherwise great image but there is a slight blur due to subject movement, one can reduce that blur with this algorithm. There is no free lunch, however, as the process increases noise. Fortunately, the low noise images we get from DSLRs are generally so good, that the algorithms can be used pretty effectively. Below, I'll show and discuss the results of the bird image in this thread as an example.



And there is a huge difference in sharpening for print versus sharpening for the web. When sharpening for print, your sized file should look over-sharpened (to allow for the ink soaking into paper). When sharpening for web, you want to sharpen without any apparenet over-sharpening... What you see is what you want...

I agree with this with a couple of caveats. With more and more people using LCDs, which have sharper edge response (high Modulation Transfer Function, MTF) if you prepare your image with a CRT, it might look over sharpened when viewed on an LCD. So use similar technology (LCDs these days) to prepare images that are going to be viewed on the web.
If you are printing using other technology than ink, such as a Lightjet, you should not over sharpen in my opinion.

If you sharpen your master file and then downsize it, the image should theoretically be well over-sharpened. You are the second person here in two days who states that they sharpen their master files and then downsize for the web (yet whose jpegs looked soft...) I have no explanation for that, but best to do it right and learn to sharpen for a given size...

As you downsize a master file, the image is not over sharpened at all. In fact, due to sampling, it again becomes under sharpened, just as expected by theory. Thus, after downsizing, one must resharpen the image. Downsizing can not over sharpen, unless perhaps you use a pretty poor algorithm.

An example thought experiment is to consider a perfectly sharp edge, one pixel black, one white. In the resampled image, it is a very low probability that two pixels will fall exactly on each side of the edge to maintain that perfect sharpness. More likely, one pixel will fall on the edge, so it takes 3 pixels to define the edge, the one in the middle would appear a shade of gray. So what formerly took 2 pixels to define an edge degrades to 3 upon resampling. The formerly perfectly sharp image then needs to be sharpened after resampling.


(Aside from capture sharpening, which is a whole other can of worms), the only time that a master file should be sharpened at all is when the eyes or the face are selectively sharpened a small bit.

If one only sharpens when producing the final image, then one has a lot of extra to do work for each size print one wants to produce.

Now I'll get to the example. I saved the original bird image in this thread, converted it to a 16-bit tif file for processing, then applied multiple runs of Richardson-Lucy image deconvolution. I used 3x3 Gaussian point spread function with 1500 iterations, and 5x5 Gaussian point spread functions at 50 and 200 iterations, noise threshold = 2 standard deviations. That produced 3 output images. I then blended the images together using layers in Photoshop using the more aggressive portions for the most blurry regions (the leaves of the bush), and the least aggressive 3x3 for the overall image, the more aggressive layers where set to 50% opacity. This is by no means a universal set of parameters, just what I used, and the final image is sharpened more than I would normally do, I just did it for illustration.

Then I flattened the image and in Photoshop I converted the image to LAB mode, then did an unsharp mask with radius=0.3, amount=128, threshold =6 only on the luminance channel. Unsharp mask can saturate highlights losing color. Doing the unsharp mask on the luminance channel reduces that problem.

OK, now I can get to the image. I love the bird and the cedar and the BKGR. And love your framing of the cedar bough. The head turn is good but a few degrees short of perfect. And yes, the whole bird could stand a good round of selective sharpening. You paint a QM of the bird, and sharpen only that layer. This avoids sharpening any noise that is present in the background... The beauty of using a QM is the seamless blending--you do not have to worry much about painting exactly between the lines...

I sharpened only the bird at 228, .3, 1 and then lightened the whole thing a bit as jpegs tend to get darker when they are re-saved. Hope that you like.

Picking out one small detail do show the difference in methods, look at the catch light in the bird's eye. There are 2 spots, one larger, and the second a smaller one to the left. If you compare the spots in each image (original, Art's unsharp mask, and the Richard-Lucy, RL, result) you'll see the RL result shows the smallest spot. RL produces finer lines (e.g. hairs), and fine detail which we perceive as texture). Unsharp mask usually increases the widths of lines and in Photoshop's implementation (which use some additions to approximate multiplies to make the algorithm run faster) gives what I call a pasty look.

I have an article about Richardson-Lucy Image deconvolution at:
http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedetail/image-restoration1

On my core 2 duo 1.8 GHz PC, the 3x3 deconvolution took 45 seconds per 100 iterations on the bird image here, so a large image can take a while to compute.

Roger
 

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This is what I was always lead to believe.

As you downsize a master file, the image is not over sharpened at all. In fact, due to sampling, it again becomes under sharpened, just as expected by theory. Thus, after downsizing, one must resharpen the image. Downsizing can not over sharpen, unless perhaps you use a pretty poor algorithm.

An example thought experiment is to consider a perfectly sharp edge, one pixel black, one white. In the resampled image, it is a very low probability that two pixels will fall exactly on each side of the edge to maintain that perfect sharpness. More likely, one pixel will fall on the edge, so it takes 3 pixels to define the edge, the one in the middle would appear a shade of gray. So what formerly took 2 pixels to define an edge degrades to 3 upon resampling. The formerly perfectly sharp image then needs to be sharpened after resampling.



Roger, I thoroughly enjoyed your explanation on this obviously, emotive subject. I have bookmarked the site you mention that discusses the Richard-Lucy Iteration.

I have only been processing digital images, for about 5 years or so, and Ive reached a stage where I feel ready to be more 'clinical' in my sharpening and basic post-image editing.

Thanks for your informative and fascinating explanation of the above techniques :)

Regards,

Tom
 
Well, Mr. Clark's sharpening information is very interesting and enlightening (to me at least!). I also would like to see Mr. Clark's image. This info really blows a big hole in my workflow! Mr. Clark's methods seem way over my head and much more complex than the "sharpen for output method". What do we do now? Isn't the "sharpen for output method" adequete?
PLEASE, EXPERTS, CHIME IN ON THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!

Dan Brown
 
Fascinating article on the algorithm. I also wish I could see Mr. Clark's image. The examples on his website and at the ImagesPlus site show nice detail in the sharpening.
 
Very interesting post by Mr Clark. I don't understand Art Morris' statement, "It is absolutely wrong to sharpen your full sized TIFF master files. No digital image should be sharpened until it is sized for final usage." I thought that method had been dead for years. Not that there is necessarily anything wrong with it (as long as you're doing some selective and not just global sharpening), but that it just isn't very efficient. Bruce Fraser and other sharpening experts have been advocating multi-pass sharpening for some time.
 
You can click on the image and see it (at least I can). I guess a moderator must approve the image. Try clicking on the image with your middle button (windows) and it brings the image up in a new window. Then you can scroll up to the other images and put them side by side for comparison.

Here is a description of my digital work flow:
http://www.clarkvision.com/photoinfo/digitalworkflow

I realize it may sound a little complex, but it is really no different than running unsharp mask in photoshop, except you have to try some parameters and wait while the program runs. The parameters I cited will mean nothing until you try the algorithm, much like the unsharp mask parameters mean little until you've done it. So it takes a little more fiddling because you don't get immediate feedback. I don't do it on every image, only my best ones that I want to make even better.

Roger
 
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